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A Gay and a Non Gay

Is Liking Pop Music Performative?

32 minutes | Wednesday, 10 September 2025

James and Dan are back with another hilarious deep dive into gay and non-gay life!

Kicking off with a listener question about what gay people really listen to at the gym, things quickly spiral into a heated debate about whether liking Kylie or Madonna is performative — and whether James is secretly pretending to love Drag Race.

From there, we head to the rugby, where James (fuelled by Sauvignon Blanc) and Dan find themselves surrounded by rainbow flags, drag queens... and straight lads... discovering how queer joy can transform even the most “blokey” of spaces.

Along the way, we get into electric car nightmares, mosh pits at Download Festival and the unexpected shame of eating alone with a newspaper.



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Is Liking Pop Music Performative?
A Gay and a Non Gay

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